Discussion on Birth and Death

"The Rule Stated by the Preachers of Islam is Wrong"

I (Rampal Das) also read the viewpoints of famous preachers of Islam and other Maulvi Saheban (Muslim religious scholars). They told that Islam does not believe in birth-death, then again birth, then death, then birth, then death, like the Hindu religion believes as is written in their renowned holy book Shrimad Bhagavad Gita, Chapter 2 Verse 22: "Like a person discarding old clothes, wears new clothes; similarly, a soul relinquishing the current body i.e., after death, continues to acquire a new body i.e., new birth,” and in Gita Chapter 4 Verse 5, it has been said, “O Arjun! You and I have had several births; you do not know; I know.” In Gita Chapter 2 Verse 12, the speaker of Gita has said, "O Arjun! You, I and all these warriors were born in the past and will be born in the future too. Do not think that we are only born in the present." Muslim Ulema (scholars) insist, “That what is written in Hindu scriptures and the Hindus believe (which is mentioned above), is not written anywhere in the scriptures of Islam. We do not believe in repeated birth and repeated death.” Muslim scholars state, “It is a rule of Islam that Baba Adam ji is the first man of all of us and the first Prophet. All the prophets from Baba Adam ji to Hazrat Muhammad ji, and all their children, that is, (Baba Adam ji is the supreme father of all Jews, Christians and Muslims, so) all the men and women (children, young, and elderly) who have died until now have been respectfully kept safe in the graves. The souls of all of them will remain in their dead bodies in the graves until Judgement Day (doomsday). At the time of doom, only Heaven, Hell and the throne of Allah in the seventh sky will remain. The rest, the earth, moon, stars, planets, sun etc. all the constellations will be destroyed. That doom will come after trillions of years. Until then, all the humans (men, women, children, elderly, young people), who will die, will also be buried in the tombs. On Judgement Day (doomsday), all bodies will be raised from the graves and resurrected. Upon resurrecting them, Allah will keep them in Heaven and Hell according to their deeds. All those, who performed religious deeds according to Allah's command, will be kept in (Jannat) Heaven, and all those who did not obey Allah's command and led a life as per their will, will be thrown into the fire of (dojakh) hell.” The scholars of Islam have told this above principle of Islam religion. All Maulvi Saheban are also endorsing it. The entire Muslim society is accepting this principle as unshakable. But the truth is contrary to this. You have read above the eye-witnessed truth described by Hazrat Muhammad ji that he saw Baba Adam and his good and bad children and all the prophets before Muhammad in Heaven and Hell. The Muslim scholars and the Maulvi Sahiban have not even understood their holy books properly. That is why, the entire Muslim society is misled. It is not aware of the truth. This proves that either all of them do not have knowledge about Islam, or if they have knowledge, they are deliberately spreading falsehoods. So, they are cheating the Muslim society. This humble servant (Rampal Das) would like to know from Muslim brothers and sisters, “Whether you will accept the words of your beloved Prophet Muhammad (Wasallam) as true or the lies of these false preachers?”

Your answer is clear that every word of all the statements of Hazrat Muhammad is true.

{Some Muslim clerics and preachers are such liars that they do not even hesitate to mislead the educated human society. When a discussion is held with them on this subject that if the theory of living in tombs till doomsday is accepted, then Hazrat Muhammad saw all the prophets from Baba Adam to Isa above in the first and the second sky. He saw the good and bad children of Baba Adam in Heaven and Hell, seeing whom Baba Adam was crying on facing left and laughing on facing right. Your doctrine is being refuted by Prophet Muhammad ji himself. Then those liars tell new lies. They say that there is a concession for the prophets. They can go up to heaven. This humble servant (author Rampal) wants proof from them. Show the evidence in the Quran or any hadith or in the description of the journey of Hazrat Muhammad ji or in the Bible. They do not have any evidence. Secondly, they say that Baba Adam ji was laughing seeing the deeds of his noble child on the right side and weeping after seeing the deeds of his evil child on the left. This humble servant (Rampal Das) asks them whether their deeds were written on walls on the right and left side, reading which Baba Adam was laughing and crying. Remember, Baba Adam was illiterate. The truth is the same as stated above.}

The proof of repeated birth and death is also in the Holy Quran which is as follows: -

Let us read some surahs (suras) in the Holy Quran Majeed about creation, destruction and birth and death and interpret that: -

Surat Kahf - 18

Verse no. 47: - And (Beware of that day) the day when we will remove (destroy) the mountains and you will see the earth laid bare as an open ground. And We will gather all mankind and leave none of them behind. (47)

Verse no. 48: - They will be presented before your Lord in rows, (And they will be asked to say) you have surely returned to Us as We created you before.

Interpretation: - It is clear in the above description that Allah did not destroy the earth. He has destroyed the structures on top of it, the mountains, the people and their homes. This cannot be called the complete destruction (doomsday). As the Muslim preachers inform that after trillions of years, when the end of the world (doomsday) will come, at that time the whole earth, the sun, the moon and the stars will be destroyed, and the dead will be raised from the graves. Those who led their lives according to Allah's command i.e., the knowledge of Quran, who remained obedient (by becoming a Muslim), they will find a place in Heaven. And those who (Kufr) refused to obey Allah’s command, those disobedient people will be put in Hell. After this only (Jannat) heaven and (Jahannum) hell will remain. Allah is ever-present in the seventh heaven; He will be. Earth, moon, sun and all the planets etc. will be destroyed. The world below will be closed forever. But the above-mentioned description which is mentioned in Quran’s Surat Kahf-18 Verses 47-48 states that the earth will indeed remain. You will see that earth as an open ground. The mountains and other creations above it will not remain. And everyone will stand in a row (paanti) in front of God to receive the fruits of their actions.

Now read Surat-Mulki-67 Verse no. 2 : -

(Allah) Who created death and life in order to test you that which of you is best in deeds and He (Allah) is the Most Powerful and the Most Forgiving.

Now read "Surat- Ar Rum 30 Verse no. 11 :-

Allah creates the creation (Khilkit) the first time, then He will repeat it. (He will make it recur.)

Now read (in Quran Majeed) Surat Ambiya - 21 Verse no. 104: -

The day when We will roll up the sky just as paper is rolled up in a bundle. Just as we created the (Kainat) universe earlier. We will repeat that. (We will make it occur again.)

Now read (in Quran Sharif) Surat Ambiya-21, English translation of Verse no. 104: -

The day when We will roll up the sky just as paper is rolled up in a bundle. Just as we had created the universe earlier, we will repeat that. We are responsible for the (this) promise. We must do it. (104)

Now read Surah Al Baqra-2 Verse no. 28: -

How can you deny Allah? Whereas you were dead, and He gave you life. Then He alone will make you die and bring you back to life again. Then you have to return to Him alone.

Now read Surah Al Baqra-2 Verse no. 29: -

It is He who created for you all the things that are on earth. Then He turned upwards and made the seven heavens properly and He is the knower of everything.

Verse no. 25 (Surat Al-Baqra-2): - (Quran Majeed, translation of whose Arabic text and Urdu translation has been done by "Hazrat Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanvi (Rahmatullahi Alaih)” and Urdu to Hindi Translation has been done by “S. Khalid Nizami” and Publisher is Kutub Khana Hamidia 342, Gali Ghadiya, Jama Masjid, Delhi 110006.}

Important: - Readers are requested to read the English translation written below of the Hindi translation done by the above translators. Please read yourself and decide whether it means repeated birth and death and repeatedly going to heaven or else? (Author)

Surah Al Baqra 2 Verse no. 25: -

And give good news, O Prophet, to those who believed and did good deeds, that there are certainly heavens for them under which rivers flow. Whenever they will be provided with fruit in those heavens, then every time they will say the same thing, “This is the same that was given to us before,” and they will indeed get resembling fruit both the times. And there will be clean and pure wives for them in those heavens, and those people will reside in those heavens forever. (25)

[Some translators have written the meaning of “will get resembling fruit both the times” as that the edible fruit that they got on earth and that they got here in the heaven resemble each other. Just think, will one only get fruit to eat in heaven. Are there no other substances in heaven?

The actual meaning has been written by this above-mentioned translator that "When the virtuous people will go to heaven again, then they will recall that earlier also they had received this happiness of heaven in return for the fruit of their actions. Even now they have received the same reward for their actions. And it is correct that when they go to heaven for the second time, they will get the happiness of heaven as a result of their actions. Where the wives will be clean and pure." This also proves repeated birth and death.}